To be like Jesus is to not mince words about snakes. Although God saves His people through faith alone in Christ alone, that faith never remains alone. All these gotcha websites, some of it is good and healthy, but some of it is just digging and digging. June 28, 2021 at 6:51 pm. The work being done by Julie, along with that of Warren Cole Smith and others, is aimed at an appropriate level of accountability, as well as showing the world that we Christians do expect better from our leaders. On March 17, we published an article documenting how MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC) promoted and supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions for aggravated child molestation and child abuse. Tom, you could say the same defending pedophiles or rapists. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. If Your Brother Sins Against You Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Others had been Cadets or counselors themselves at some point and were happy to become reacquainted. A misogynistic Elder board, thats what kind. John by not talking is digging a deeper hole for himself. Together, we commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, celebrated the ministry of our founder and first president, Dr. R.C. I think Roys report did a pretty precise job of explaining the situationyou could always talk to David Gray, who is STILL LOCKED UP AND PAROLE DENIED!!!! Perhaps the man is truly sick. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians re There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 5:11-13 says Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. This story will not go away. If Julie Roys found out about them, yikes. If they had we wouldnt be having this discussion. Here we go again. Dr. MacArthur informed us this week that he will be unable to join us for next weeks conference. If we the church dont call out the vipers then who will. Sounds like we are still unreformed and have adopted Romes conception of the church as power structure. You use 1 Tim 5:20 as justification to take these matters public, but come on, we both know when it says everyone it is in the context of everyone in the church not the world at large. I really dont know the whole story and neither do you! **1 Cor 6:6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers! Thats why churches must prayerfully and carefully seek to have and maintain a regenerate membership. The Ligonier app allows you to: Log in to access your purchased teaching series and conference messages Download audio messages for offline playback Cast video and audio to connected. Friday morning, The Roys Report noticed that MacArthur had been removed from the conference website and tweeted about the discovery. All of this is spinning out of control, w/everyones comments & personal opinions. The examples you use in scripture do not support or justify how you do your reporting. Sinclair Ferguson, W. Robert Godfrey, Joel Kim, Steven Lawson, John MacArthur . Nice try Tom. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? They have left the safe path, that church leadership that deviates from the instruction and example from the Apostles and elders in the New Testament, the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Join us on September 24-25, 2021, for A Continuing Reformation, a two-day conference in Pittsburgh, PA. As we examine essential truths of Scripture championed in the Protestant Reformation, we'll be encouraged to stand with greater conviction on the immovable . On September 18, 2021, Ligonier Ministries and RBC hosted Always Ready, a one-day apologetics youth conference to provide an overview of key issues in apologetics and give answers to some of the most common attacks on the Christian faith. Whatever Elders do at GCC, it is somehow distinct from Leadership. View our current career opportunities. Im not a follower of JM, but Im also not one to creat news where there is no news. The result is that they become Satans buddies, by being in and of the world to the point that they believe whatever they want to believe, distorting Christs character, which might well be known to them rather than being ignorant of it, and they develop a denial based cult like mentality, which becomes pride-filled, disrespectful of the law, macho and deeply conservative above and beyond being Christlike. Nearly everyone who stopped by the Cadet exhibit was excited to learn that Cadets is at work in the lives of boys and men around the world. As you seem so keen for Christians to hold one another accountable, why didnt GCC hold criminal abuser David Grays accountable? Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. NO VIDEOS! God bless Pastor John and his church family. Of course it is. Trust God and pray for the truth to be known at any and all costs. That is totally taking scripture out of context. John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. Too many Christians hide behind judge least ye be judged. Your article is very one-sided. The local church which consists of the members must be the authority under the Headship Christ to excommunicate a member found guilty and unrepentant. 2) Why did not the church report the attempted murder, yes that is what he confessed to in writing, to the police. The difference is I can ask for forgiveness and repent of my ways. This is why the CCC sends representatives to conferences like this one. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. Now about your sins that may or may not need the police to review!!!! No One Knows. The scripture tells us to mind our own business . To donate, click here. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. To donate, supported Gray even after his 2005 convictions, Opinion: John MacArthur and We vs. They. NO ADS! Over the last ten years, listeners of Renewing Your Mind have been greeted each day by the friendly voice of Lee Webb. Tom Gardiana, folks have been looking for MacArthurs repentance, but it is yet to be found. Yeah Julie. When a preacher, who doesnt meet those conditions, preaches from the pulpit even when he is biblically accurate but then fails to walk the walk and seems only able to talk the talk, he then fails to respect the very reason for being allowed to preach in the first place. Ralph Thank you thank you thank you. I wonder how Phil and Justin are gonna spin this? It is a most magnificent truth. There is no way for us to know for sure at this time and we maybe never will. Be sure your sin will find you out. (Numbers 32:23) Every leader needs a Nathan. I pray that the only intention of The Roys Report is to call for accountability among Christian leaders. The Q&A panel discussion of this post is from day 3. One of the best ways you can learn about a person or even an event is being thereto be on site. And he also lied and said that he was sick, when clearly he wasnt, because he went golfing. These men took 9 questions which are noted below. John Mac Arthur is a great expositor but he failed at being a good Pastor in this case. College-Age Positions: $100 for Training + $285 / Week Base Rate. Neither the church nor MacArthur has responded. There are always consequences for words and deeds, unfortunately Mr. Gray broke the law. Julie, I know you believe it is right, but all the scriptures you use to justify your type of reporting is not in context with the scriptures. Nor is all of the facts presented in the original report. It may be an excuse. Lets stop the apologist nonsense for this behavior. $ 99 off. With our glorious future in view, Christians do not have less of a stake in the present, but infinitely more. To shame and reject an abused wife and her abused children is reprehensible behavior and it is especially so when the one doing the shaming is an influential church leader. Please let us know at info@calvinistcadets.org! Hence, MacArthur and all his elders are accountable to the judgment in the Lord. I guess they dont really believe what they preach. Danny de Armas, the senior associate pastor, infamously offered a full-blown ecumenical statement devoid of any Gospel truth and antithetical to the teachings of Scripture by highlighting how many illegal immigrants, pro-choice demoncrats, and LGBTQ folkwere serving in his church. Ligonier 2021 Pittsburgh Conference. Ligonier Tours takes you to the places where significant events occurred, events that have shaped history. He admitted to often being nude with his daughter. The real gospel says its not about what we do for christ, its about what he did for us. We can even create the scene in our minds eye. No one really knows FACTS. Sproul's new book. Phils response is certainly not biblical and nowhere close to being christian. beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks by those who hate God. That is the part that is, as you put it, scary. (Ding! They dont need signs. on Q&A from Ligonier Conference 2021, Right Now Counts Forever, Day 3, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Man-Centered spirituality (modern false gospel, etc. While MacArthur withdrew, for whatever reasons those were, many prominent speakers remain such as Steven Lawson, Sinclair Ferguson, Robert Godfrey, Stephen Nichols, Burk Parsons, Derek Thomas, and Michael Reeves, amongst others. John MacArthur (March-20-2021) Watch Sermon: We all Need to Know this Truth. It is wrong. His reputation as a true servant of God for all the years Ive known him requires no explanation for the decisions he has made this far in his life & career. There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. We want to plant seeds everywhere we can. Panel Discussion: R.C. John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. If they did they would see how errant their idiotic stance of David Grays innocence really is and see him for what he is: a cold hearted serious criminal who deserves to be where he is right now. 1) I was shocked the wife tried to formally withdraw from Grace To You church in writing they said they literally would not let her withdraw. It sends out mixed messages. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? The GCC website, under the About tab, has one webpage listing for Leadership and a different webpage listing (current) Elders with very little overlap. Is that what your sharing that Julie might find out about you? Click Bait on the headline! Read More. Sproul and exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible. Learn more: https://www.ligonier.org/about/. Even when there is an opportunity to fess up and give a truthful explanation as to why MacArthur will not be able to attend a scheduled event, they/he still gives excuses. It is kind of like a baby with a pacifierJM tickles the ears of these work horses. 27. He is one of the formost pastors in the world. CRN offers a lifeline to conservative people of faith who are disgusted with Facebook, Twitter and the MSM for failing to report, even blocking, important news stories that dont comport with the far lefts narrative. Only the blood of Jesus can do this and it is received freely as a gift by his grace to those who believe. On Monday, January 18, we hosted our 2021 Winter Conference, Everyone's a Theologian, at Saint Andrew's Chapel and on the RBC campus in Central Florida. Jesus made the pattern very clear. I agree we are all sinners and I agree I would not want my past exposed. #ligcon See less Comments The predator has groomed the elders elders and the congregation even before selecting the victims. Cheryl, very reasonable response by you. David Grey continued from jail to manipulate others in Grace Community Church to his benefit despite his criminal conviction. Am I Right With God Pastor Patrick Hines sheeplywolves, By Faith Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey, By Faith Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey sheeplywolves, Not By Works Galatians 2:15-21 Pastor Patrick Ramsey. Do you know of a conference or similar gathering where Cadets should exhibit or promote our ministry? You are blessed to expose the charlatans of the church like MacArthur. Friday evening, Ligonier Ministries responded to a request for comment, saying: Thank you for your inquiry. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. This is one of the problems with Elder-run churches. The Christian character and witness of Pastor John Macarthur is well known. The Bible is explicit in what qualities and qualifications a preacher must have. So, generally speaking, this is what Ive come to expect from this site. These Elders need to repent, seek forgiveness and exonerate this dear woman her children. How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [someone who lacks assurance]? Now is our time to stand with unrelenting devotion to Gods unchanging Word. What king of elder board would throw her out and keep him knowing this? I was never comfortable with the way he publicly corrected others, including RC Sproul. Pastor Heiland, there doesnt seem to be any reason to expect that being a great expositor or preacher or public speaker would overlap with being a good pastor. . But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. You know, it is certainly possible that he is indeed sick. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. You know what you know, but youre in trouble if you think you know what you dont know . There is a question of whos work? Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Ligonier Ministries is the teaching fellowship of R.C. [9] Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. GCC was given his confession. For nearly 40 years, Johns teaching helped me become a faithful Christian in every respect. So your saying some of your past sins are protecting pedophiles and wife beaters and youve covered up people that committed those crimes? We will also host a pre-conference event titled Global Missions. She also has the training. I would be ill too. "Last Friday, the board of directors of Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College received and affirmed the resignation of Dr. R.C. This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. Announcing Our 2021 Conference in Detroit There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Christians will not find strength to face the challenges of today by looking to novel ideas Rather than a mere relic of the past, the Reformation is our future. He confessed to punishing too harshly with a belt and rod, striking his kids on the head and feet and not being appropriately dressed when he was with his daughter. YOU, I have been looking for MacArthurs repentance? They continually chose to support an abuser over the victims of that abuse, even after the abuser admitted to his own abuse AND was found guilty in a court of law. Its at the expense of John Mac Arthurs life long work as well. When Moses spoke with God, was that a real manifestation of God or what? If you cannot hold a pastor/teacher accountable here, and call him to repentance, when can you? This is one of the problems with Elder-run churches.. Considering the horrors that the victim in this story was put through by her husband, as well as by John MacArthur and his henchmen, wouldnt you like to see at least some indication of MacArthur having a contrite spirit about this? When the Bible was written all people had was the church. Great! He makes excuses because he is siding with the predator, David Gray. (Screengrab from MacArthur speaking at 2021 Ligonier conference.) The world around us is constantly changing, yet Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Heb. 1Co 7:11 KJV But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. On these tours, youll have time with these trusted teachers over a meal or at the sites along the journey. The Apostle James provides some of Scriptures clearest guidance on how Christians should both hear what God has revealed and do what His Word commands. Best $ Off Code. Instead, it reads as gotcha journalism and bias on the site. People, specially older people do get sick. And Phil is not a humble man either. We as men of Christ know how the devil will use media in an attempt to strip John MacArthur of everything he has done in total comittance in his life long dedicated life in our Holy Triune God, through the seminary, as well as Grace church. To pretty much assume that it is an excuse may well be jumping to false conclusions. I believe that church pastored by a team of CO-EQUAL teaching elders would prevent this kind of behavior exhibited by the one and only pastor/teacher of Grace Community Church, John MacArthur. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Churches are to be pastored by the group of co-equal, older men (elders) of a church who meet the qualifications of bishop, 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9. / Socialism / Communism, Satan; Slanderer; Devil; Liar; Serpent; Dragon, Covenant Theology Overview by Pastor Patrick Hines [Salvation and Eschatology, Part 7, Conclusion], Covenant Theology Overview by Pastor Patrick Hines [Salvation and Eschatology, Part 7, Conclusion] sheeplywolves. Sproul so often reminded us, right now counts forever. Q4. Its a bit like serving up a five star Gourmet meal from a budget take-out food bento box. ), Progressive Govt. Its scary to think every sin youve committed thirty years ago can be found out by sleuths. You are misunderstanding and misrepresenting what John has preached and written on the topic. He should be held to the same standards to which he holds everyone else. The Q & A portion of the conference would be a snake pit to navigate right now. Five years ago, Sproul resigned from his father's organization, Ligonier Ministries, after being arrested for drunk driving with his underage kids in the car. 1 Peter 5:8-11 NKJV Q2. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Why are they so angry when they are being held to account , when asked to walk the talk ? Fix that problem! W. Robert Godfrey and Derek Thomas will lead us through James 1 against the breathtaking landscape of Alaska. I dont think I have to point out beginning with Ravi Zacharias that there seems to be a pattern emerging that shows effective, full counsel of God ministries seem to be under petty attacks. I know that John MacArthurs ministry has blessed me for 50 years I have grown in my walk with the Lord I do not worship Man, but I pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ we are all fallible,, and in need of grace. Opinion: John MacArthurs Church Let Her Down. What does that mean in the church? He admitted to locking them in the closet, dropping/dragging them. His cancellation to join at the Ligoniers National Conference this coming week is his own alibi. Our 2023 National Conference will encourage us to stand firm on the everlasting doctrines of the Christian faith (1 Cor. The Psalmist David used to pray for God to deal with his enemies, why dont people pray such prayers today? Is the fact that MacArthur missing a conference really newsworthy? I do not fear going before God and saying lord, I called out the den of vipers who abuse your word for their own glory. What are you talking about! A ministry of the First Presbyterian Church of Pittsburgh since 1914. He needs to be biblically qualified and he isnt. Matthew 18:15-17 But nothing brings a person or an event to life like being there. 3) I am disgusted by Phil Johnsons description of Julie Roys and her reporting. Since Ligonier emphasizes the importance of the local church . Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. He many have had to cancel because he is not well, just as he said. Ligonier Ministries partners with Sovereign Tours, a Florida Seller of Travel #ST35876. Since part of the abuse of this woman included public humiliation by MacArthur, is it unreasonable to expect him to take to the pulpit and express his remorse, if he has any? May God bless all his children as we all seek his face! 2. However, we then discovered a post on Facebook post indicating MacArthur was cancelling a speaking engagement at Calvary Baptist Church in Dothan, Alabama, due to health issues. Didnt he and his wife also have Covid and kept that a secret? As Christians are pushed toward the margins of a hostile society, we cannot afford to surrender our convictions or to retreat in fear. How Phil and Justin Peters and the like can defend this man is amazing, but he does write their checks. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? Unfortunately w Steve Lawson so entrenched in both MacArthur and Ligonier ministries I have to break from both. Say something I dont agree with spirituality, sure lets go to the elders. He may start with faith alone, but he brings works into maintaining salvation and if you believe your works maintain your salvation, you are not saved, because no works can justify or maintain salvation before God. You may as well say to a Christian policeman that he cant arrest anyone, in case the suspect turns out that they are Christian or claims to be. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. Nor should you try to tarnish anyone whitout facts. We know enough of the story to call a man to repentance. Dont forgettomorrow is the last day to save 50% on admission to the 2022 National Conference in Orlando. Due to his visibility, I believe his hubris has tarnished both. Works do not maintain salvation, but they are a sign to the believer that or she is saved, and seeing such undeniable change in a one of the ways unbelievers are attracted to the Savior. John has told us in his past sermons that those who refuse to benefit from his churchs council long can be released as a member, but only until that person repents, & confess. How is this what you are doing??? Is this man so far above everyone that he must be protected and given such a level of loyalty that he cannot be perceived as even being capable of making a mistake? The Ligonier Ministries site requires Javascript, but youve got Javascript disabled. Prison. 13:8). Grace even helped Gray launch and run a ministry in the prison, called Grace Prison Fellowship. So many write to us every week to share how the Lord has used Dr. R.C. Unless they presume to be sinless, why wouldnt they simply humbly graciously admit to the wrong they did and ask for forgiveness ? Session 1: June 18-23, $620, Ages 8-13, rising 3rd-8th grade Session 2: June 25-30 $620, Ages 8-13, rising 3rd-8th grade Session 3: July 2-7, $620, Ages 8-14, rising 3rd-9th graders If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. Since no one else shares the same title of Pastor/ Teacher as John there, it is prudent to conclude that John MacArthur is without equal at GCC and functions as the de facto senior pastor. Ive done things Im not proud of, but most people dont have the power, celebrity, influence, and even adoration that John MacArthur has. It is reprehensible. Togeth. These same people attend listen, serve, grow and giveWe have pro-life and pro-choiceAnd in the midst of all of this, we have one of the most beautiful worship experiences you can possibly imagine. Viewarticle, Research: Progressive (Social Justice) Christianity, CRNs homepage contains a list of professing Christians to mark and avoid (Rom 16:17-18). Yes, he is too accountable. As R.C. Amen. We urge you to sign upto receive our FREE need to read articles. Christianity is a faith that must be put into practice. Sounds to me like youre a God hater? What is the future church facing? Grace is the higher law here, especially amongst believers. Eileen Taylors 20-year-old self could never have imagined her life today. I have faith in the teaching of Pastor John and can see there are constant attacks on his ministry to compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Even when Jesus rebuked the Jews and flipped the table over in the temple it was done in front of believers. So Jesus is not allowed to call anyone a white-washed tomb which in todays lingo could be translated as a white-washed septic tank? All rights reserved, West Coast Ministers Conference | Devoted to Christs Church, Seth the nameless man: A key condition for Revival. Pastor John MacArthur in his sermon on the holiness of God and His people at the Ligonier Ministries' conference said something that we all need to know. How strange in this case the government got it right, and the Elders leading the local church got it wrong. Stream for Free: Right Now Counts Forever Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. Gods got this! Must a person forsake his sins to come to Christ? If you do not have time to hear the entire 48 minute video, then I highly recommend hearing Q6 How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [who lacks assurance]? Our 2023 National Conference will encourage us to stand firm on the everlasting doctrines of the Christian faith (1 Cor. He seemed proud of his involvement in civil rights. Ligonier Ministries is "the teaching fellowship of R.C. Total Codes. Quit picking on these guys! I understand this is an extreme example, but hopefully you see the problem here. Not only does she have the heart for doing good journalism. Q5. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! However, a church where MacArthur also was slated to speak in March has stated MacArthur is cancelling its engagement due to family health issues.. You can literally walk in the footsteps of our heroes of the past, of Luther, of Calvin, of Jonathan Edwards. MacArthur CLEARLY verbally attacked the people protesting the nazis at Charlottesville but totally mitigated and exonerated the nazis and alt right white nationalists who murdered Heather Hyer. 451 Ligonier Court, Sanford, . Staff members Steve Bootsma (Executive Director) and Russ Roozeboom (Marketing and Promotions Coordinator) traveled to Orlando, Florida to represent the Cadets ministry, plant seeds, and make connections that will help Cadets grow. There wasnt just one incident of acting horrible and then it was over. Registration Learn More Resource Library All Resources G3 Clips The Heart Is Deceitful above All Things Phil Johnson G3 Clips Passing on the Importance of Historic Church Leaders James White G3 Clips The Inspiration of Scripture Lone-pastor/senior-pastors surrounded by subordinates are less likely to receive guidance like what is offered now before the blunder is made and the damage is done. The answers to Q6 occurred from the 21 minute mark to 38:30. I thought there was only one God. The traditionally conservative and Gospel-centered organization is called Ligonier because it was founded in Ligonier Valley, Pennsylvania in 1971 and it publishes the popular Table Talk Magazine, which is edited by Burk Parsons. B/c something is reported or judged, doesnt mean its fact. NO POPUPS! For someone who believe that their action were right and just, they sure dont seem to be very forthcoming with an explanation. So many times people want to believe they know the,situation. The Roys Report is doing a unique and vital work exposing sin and lack of accountability in religious gatherings. However, I hoped he was trying to protect the credibility of Gods holy word, and the testimony of His church. On March 8, The Roys Report published an expos with exclusive video showing that MacArthur shamed and excommunicated the wife of child abuser, David Gray, for refusing to take Gray back into her home. Have you read the affidavit of another pastor who heard the tapes of these counseling sessions and verified Eileens account? Sproul Trusting God The Westminster Shorter Catechism with Sinclair Ferguson Question & Answer 95 Valley Of Vision The Personal Touch Ask RC Church and the Culture Show Me Your Glory Learn More Music No. You believe that the charges against Ravi Zacharias were petty and his victims hate God? You are a follower of a cult leader. View our current career opportunities. This is the lowest registration rate we will offer. Give him and us a break please! John macarthur does not understand the difference between a believer and a disciple , nor the difference between justification and sanctification. John MacArthur doesnt owe anyone an explanation of what or why he decides what is best for him and his family as well as what is best for his church family. And remember he and his wife were resting during their absence from the pulpit when it came out later that they actually had the Covid virus. His inability to admit he was wrong and reach out to the victims in this case should rightfully be called out.. Gray admitted that he beat his kids on the heads and feet with a rod and belt, with his knee on their backs!

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